艺术宇宙

neferyan 2013-02-02 0

展示了一种看世界的新角度

Renesis 2011-04-15 0

李教授的代序更精彩

爱の绞刑架 2012-08-26 0

以前自己很疑惑自己爱好，现在，解惑咯。音乐果然是科学与艺术的最终道路，未来是波，波啊

枫叶鱼 2016-03-27 0

“而通过对人类思维最具艺术性的发明进行新的研究，科学则会发现复杂性结构出现的奥秘，在这里，科学与艺术终于汇合到了一起。”

简不易 2016-12-02 0

阐述宇宙物理结构如何影响和限制了人类的心理结构，让我们看见复杂性中孕育的简单性。有趣的知识点非常多。

小P 2014-02-27 0

喜欢这本书描述的内容，有科学和艺术结合的思考，新的看待世界的方式

monochrome 2010-11-04 0

我们对这个世界的认识还不完整像好多碎片拼凑在一起，中间的空隙用想象来填补

懒羊羊 2013-08-21 0

感觉跟科普没区别

chanqiunuo 2016-08-23 1

虽然深度不够，胜在覆盖面很大，我的菜，稀饭这种模式的思维跳跃感。

chanqiunuo 2016-08-23 1

虽然深度不够，胜在覆盖面很大，我的菜，稀饭这种模式的思维跳跃感。

假以时日 2015-06-21 1

有的书回答问题是为了终结问题，而有的则是为了引出更多的问题，本书明显属于后者。读的时候脑力激荡十分剧烈，建议每天清晨起来小读一章，思考下关于科学与艺术的大问题，然后整天都会神清气爽。

NaOH 2011-02-26 1

这本的打分非常之虚高。不能说是全无价值的，但对不起艺术宇宙这个名字呀……

42 2011-05-07 1

1、前面2/3都是高中知识，后面的有价值些2、没有突出“艺术”3、人类踉踉跄跄跑了几千年，终于看到了艺术与科学相遇的交点。那么还要多久，能够依靠技术解决哲学上形而上的问题？

neferyan 2013-02-02 0

展示了一种看世界的新角度

Renesis 2011-04-15 0

李教授的代序更精彩

爱の绞刑架 2012-08-26 0

以前自己很疑惑自己爱好，现在，解惑咯。音乐果然是科学与艺术的最终道路，未来是波，波啊

枫叶鱼 2016-03-27 0

“而通过对人类思维最具艺术性的发明进行新的研究，科学则会发现复杂性结构出现的奥秘，在这里，科学与艺术终于汇合到了一起。”

简不易 2016-12-02 0

阐述宇宙物理结构如何影响和限制了人类的心理结构，让我们看见复杂性中孕育的简单性。有趣的知识点非常多。

小P 2014-02-27 0

喜欢这本书描述的内容，有科学和艺术结合的思考，新的看待世界的方式

鸡汤式的“科普”

櫻桃 2015-09-08 1赞

先引用一篇美亚的书评：

Regurgitation without attribution

By Owen Brown on January 6, 2014
Format: Paperback

Reader, my comments refer to the 1995 edition, of which I understand this to be an "expansion." Barrow, and you, would have benefited from a contraction. This earlier work (which I must assume provides you with the basis for that of which you read this review) is a poorly-organized, and poorly-edited mish-mash of hypotheses that point at Barrow's conclusion without lending any particular force to his argument.

Which is? The world is so because it is. Extraterrestrials, if they exist, must exist as they do. The four forces of the universe cannot be any different than they are, if the moon was not where it lives in the sky, mathematics would be far different now than what it is. And by the way, we have the Minoans to blame for constellations (bright bit of conjecture there!) Why this teleological fever? I suppose because our author, a new Candide, wants to point out that our aesthetic preferences are based upon our physical/evolutionary constructs, themselves based upon what we currently conceive to be givens of physics and chemistry (and this is not a bad idea), but they couldn't be otherwise.

All presented in a prose style 5that is occasionally amusing (the best part of the book are the quotes) but far too often has one struggle with paragraphs that straggle over far too many pages. Did Barrow's agent just throw up her hands? To say nothing of the editor - after all, as ideas and connections pour forth in a feverish fashion from Barrow's pen, one would like to read of his sources. Some are listed in the bibliography, none are footnoted in the text.

One would also have liked a few other critical readers before the text made it to print. Barrow provides conclusions that benefits his anthropocentric principles as if they generally were fait accompli, but they are only one of many that might be considered. For example: "...it could be that our liking for music is merely a by-product of an advantageous adaptation for coordinated actions." Yes, I suppose it could be. Or maybe not. At other times we read sentences appalling in their banality. Here's one:

"In the absence of catastrophes, our own existence is made possible by the presence of our friendly neighbourhood star: the Sun."

Do you know something now that you didn't before? Here's another:

"The strength of rocks and metals is fixed by the strength of the electromagnetic forces of Nature, and by the masses of protons and electrons."

And here's another:

"Mankind's awareness of the stars, and of the periodic changes in the appearances of the Sun and the Moon, was already well developed at the dawn of recorded history."

These were all taken at random. There are plenty more. Barrow would reply that they are taken out of context, to which it would be fair to ask him exactly what context he has in mind. It seems that there is nothing that will not support his thesis. And then there's an over-long excursion in chapter 5 where music is compared to mathematics - for what end? You'll never really know.

I am sorry for Barrow that I give this a single star, but not for you, as his potential customer. Although there are a few interesting ideas here, as well as some workable summaries of celestial events (precession, etc.) there are far too many windy connections for the work to stand. Barrow may believe that the past shapes the present, and thus the future, but for the most part yours will be better if you avoid this book.

原文地址：http://www.amazon.com/Artful-Universe-Expanded-John-Barrow-ebook/dp/B005YMCC3C/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

上面这篇评论写得非常中肯。
在我买这本书之前我对作者的角度，即从数学家的视角评论人类的艺术创作，是非常感兴趣的。
可是当我看完中文版序言和目录之后我总觉得好像有什么地方怪怪的，于是想去找原版来对照读，看到这篇评论后恍然大悟，原来是作者的论述方式给我带来的这种感觉。作者观察角度较有新意，可是在尽量保持表面严谨的论述方式之下，却透着一股类似于成功学畅销书的牵强逻辑。以所有有利因素为自己的观点做验证。
一位数学教授对艺术的“另外一个视角”的观察，原来并没有想象中的超乎常人。
但不管怎么说，如果把它作为一本用以启发观点的小册子来看，扫过每一章节的想法，确实还有它的作用。只是我想如书中所提这类弱关联的观点，大部分会去买这本书的人本身都已曾想到过，而书中的论述又并非有何理据，所以其实也没有什么卵用。而如果是从未想到过书中任何一星半点论述的读者，或许原本自身也缺失一些独立思考能力（或者对艺术或科学太过缺少了解），因此大概会像看成功学和鸡汤一样被简单的结论洗脑却依然说不出所以然来吧。
如此看来，本书确实价值并不高了。
但我还是会先至少把它看完一遍的:D

一样的书，不一样的译者，前后相差9年

邪恶的天才 2010-11-20 1赞

这不是那本上海科学技术出版社的View-新视角TM书系的《艺术与宇宙》吗？译者换了，不知道又怎样改变？

此书背景

binich 2010-12-10 7赞

《艺术宇宙》，原书作者是约翰·D·巴罗，是剑桥大学的数学教授兼千年数学项目主任，英国皇家学会研究员，天文学格雷欣教授。他的主要科学研究领域是数学和宇宙学，著有许多深受读者欢迎的科普书。主要作品有：《创世的左手：膨胀宇宙的起源和演化》（合作，1983）；《人择宇宙学原理》（合作，1986），《世界中的世界》（1988）；《万物至理：探索终极解释》（1991）；《从天而降的π：运算、思考与存在》（1992）；《内在空间与外部空间》（1999）；《发现自己的宇宙》（2000）. 《无字天书》（2000）；《自然的常数：从Α到Ω》（2002）。

《艺术宇宙》英文版最先出版于1995年，10年后，作者根据科学的发展，对其进行了修订增补。湖南科技出版社引进的即是2005年的增补修订本。《艺术与宇宙》是一部严肃科普。与普通读者所了解的用简单语言描述科学的“科普”不同，严肃科普虽然也是把科学解释给普通读者，但语言未必简单，却往往显示出散文家的风范。本书把令人费解的专业内容，与天文、地理、物理、生命科学、语言、宗教、音乐、美术等领域的知识和思想联系在一起。《经济学人》杂志评价阅读这本书为享受“一场盛宴。”可以说，这部书，是国外科学散文的最佳体现，就连不同意作者观点的书平人，也读之不倦（《纽约时报》书评）。作者在书中指出，我们人类使用两种方法探索周围的世界。一种是科学，通过优雅而精确的数学描述，使我们越来越深入地了解宇宙的性质，远远超出了人类经验的范畴。另一种是创造性艺术的途径，它深入挖掘我们的内心世界，调动我们的情感和想象力，通过艺术、语言和音乐表达我们的反应。

此书背景

binich 2010-12-10 7

《艺术宇宙》，原书作者是约翰·D·巴罗，是剑桥大学的数学教授兼千年数学项目主任，英国皇家学会研究员，天文学格雷欣教授。他的主要科学研究领域是数学和宇宙学，著有许多深受读者欢迎的科普书。主要作品有：《创世的左手：膨胀宇宙的起源和演化》（合作，1983）；《人择宇宙学原理》（合作，1986），《世界中的世界》（1988）；《万物至理：探索终极解释》（1991）；《从天而降的π：运算、思考与存在》（1992）；《内在空间与外部空间》（1999）；《发现自己的宇宙》（2000）. 《无字天书》（2000）；《自然的常数：从Α到Ω》（2002）。

《艺术宇宙》英文版最先出版于1995年，10年后，作者根据科学的发展，对其进行了修订增补。湖南科技出版社引进的即是2005年的增补修订本。《艺术与宇宙》是一部严肃科普。与普通读者所了解的用简单语言描述科学的“科普”不同，严肃科普虽然也是把科学解释给普通读者，但语言未必简单，却往往显示出散文家的风范。本书把令人费解的专业内容，与天文、地理、物理、生命科学、语言、宗教、音乐、美术等领域的知识和思想联系在一起。《经济学人》杂志评价阅读这本书为享受“一场盛宴。”可以说，这部书，是国外科学散文的最佳体现，就连不同意作者观点的书平人，也读之不倦（《纽约时报》书评）。作者在书中指出，我们人类使用两种方法探索周围的世界。一种是科学，通过优雅而精确的数学描述，使我们越来越深入地了解宇宙的性质，远远超出了人类经验的范畴。另一种是创造性艺术的途径，它深入挖掘我们的内心世界，调动我们的情感和想象力，通过艺术、语言和音乐表达我们的反应。

鸡汤式的“科普”

櫻桃 2015-09-08 1

先引用一篇美亚的书评：

Regurgitation without attribution

By Owen Brown on January 6, 2014
Format: Paperback

Reader, my comments refer to the 1995 edition, of which I understand this to be an "expansion." Barrow, and you, would have benefited from a contraction. This earlier work (which I must assume provides you with the basis for that of which you read this review) is a poorly-organized, and poorly-edited mish-mash of hypotheses that point at Barrow's conclusion without lending any particular force to his argument.

Which is? The world is so because it is. Extraterrestrials, if they exist, must exist as they do. The four forces of the universe cannot be any different than they are, if the moon was not where it lives in the sky, mathematics would be far different now than what it is. And by the way, we have the Minoans to blame for constellations (bright bit of conjecture there!) Why this teleological fever? I suppose because our author, a new Candide, wants to point out that our aesthetic preferences are based upon our physical/evolutionary constructs, themselves based upon what we currently conceive to be givens of physics and chemistry (and this is not a bad idea), but they couldn't be otherwise.

All presented in a prose style 5that is occasionally amusing (the best part of the book are the quotes) but far too often has one struggle with paragraphs that straggle over far too many pages. Did Barrow's agent just throw up her hands? To say nothing of the editor - after all, as ideas and connections pour forth in a feverish fashion from Barrow's pen, one would like to read of his sources. Some are listed in the bibliography, none are footnoted in the text.

One would also have liked a few other critical readers before the text made it to print. Barrow provides conclusions that benefits his anthropocentric principles as if they generally were fait accompli, but they are only one of many that might be considered. For example: "...it could be that our liking for music is merely a by-product of an advantageous adaptation for coordinated actions." Yes, I suppose it could be. Or maybe not. At other times we read sentences appalling in their banality. Here's one:

"In the absence of catastrophes, our own existence is made possible by the presence of our friendly neighbourhood star: the Sun."

Do you know something now that you didn't before? Here's another:

"The strength of rocks and metals is fixed by the strength of the electromagnetic forces of Nature, and by the masses of protons and electrons."

And here's another:

"Mankind's awareness of the stars, and of the periodic changes in the appearances of the Sun and the Moon, was already well developed at the dawn of recorded history."

These were all taken at random. There are plenty more. Barrow would reply that they are taken out of context, to which it would be fair to ask him exactly what context he has in mind. It seems that there is nothing that will not support his thesis. And then there's an over-long excursion in chapter 5 where music is compared to mathematics - for what end? You'll never really know.

I am sorry for Barrow that I give this a single star, but not for you, as his potential customer. Although there are a few interesting ideas here, as well as some workable summaries of celestial events (precession, etc.) there are far too many windy connections for the work to stand. Barrow may believe that the past shapes the present, and thus the future, but for the most part yours will be better if you avoid this book.

原文地址：http://www.amazon.com/Artful-Universe-Expanded-John-Barrow-ebook/dp/B005YMCC3C/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

上面这篇评论写得非常中肯。
在我买这本书之前我对作者的角度，即从数学家的视角评论人类的艺术创作，是非常感兴趣的。
可是当我看完中文版序言和目录之后我总觉得好像有什么地方怪怪的，于是想去找原版来对照读，看到这篇评论后恍然大悟，原来是作者的论述方式给我带来的这种感觉。作者观察角度较有新意，可是在尽量保持表面严谨的论述方式之下，却透着一股类似于成功学畅销书的牵强逻辑。以所有有利因素为自己的观点做验证。
一位数学教授对艺术的“另外一个视角”的观察，原来并没有想象中的超乎常人。
但不管怎么说，如果把它作为一本用以启发观点的小册子来看，扫过每一章节的想法，确实还有它的作用。只是我想如书中所提这类弱关联的观点，大部分会去买这本书的人本身都已曾想到过，而书中的论述又并非有何理据，所以其实也没有什么卵用。而如果是从未想到过书中任何一星半点论述的读者，或许原本自身也缺失一些独立思考能力（或者对艺术或科学太过缺少了解），因此大概会像看成功学和鸡汤一样被简单的结论洗脑却依然说不出所以然来吧。
如此看来，本书确实价值并不高了。
但我还是会先至少把它看完一遍的:D

一样的书，不一样的译者，前后相差9年

邪恶的天才 2010-11-20 1

这不是那本上海科学技术出版社的View-新视角TM书系的《艺术与宇宙》吗？译者换了，不知道又怎样改变？

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